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of the nra after these tragedies? >> in a word, nothing. the nra doesn't comment. why should they? you can't win this argument with the specter of 20 dead children hanging in the air. as painful as it sounds right now, memories fade. six months from now people will likely feel very differently about what went down in newtown. the nra probably won't comment then either but it won't need to because roughly half the population still thinks the answers to tragedies is more guns, protection. >> so, carol, what about the power of the nra as a lobby? everyone knows it is significant. you saw some of the campaign pictures. what kind of power are we talking about when it comes to money and numbers? >> it is not so much about the money. the nra has millions of members, 4 million members or more. that is like having 4 million votes in your pocket. so legislators, lawmakers are elected and know that. they are talking about real votes they may lose if they pass gun control legislation. that is the power of the nra. >> carol costello reporting for us live in atlanta. thank you for that insightfu
of the nra after these tragedies? >> in a word, nothing. the nra doesn't comment. why should they? you can't win this argument with the specter of 20 dead children hanging in the air. as painful as it sounds right now, memories fade. six months from now people will likely feel very differently about what went down in newtown. the nra probably won't comment then either but it won't need to because roughly half the population still thinks the answers to tragedies is more guns, protection....
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i want to ask you about the nra because the nra remained silent on this issue. we haven't heard word one. facebook page is down. why do you think that is? why isn't the nra coming out and standing up for itself when so many out there are blaming the nra for what happened in newtown, connecticut? >> yeah. well, i mean, obviously you would have to ask folks from the nra. let's just hope it is out of respect for this tragedy. but, you know, from the president on down, we all have to engage the nra and people we know who have guns and want to keep their guns and remind them just as don lemon said a moment ago, none of these proposals will take guns out of the hands of people who have them now. this is all about trying to limit access to guns by people who shouldn't have them. based on their records. and to keep military weapons off of the commercial market. that shouldn't inhibit anybody's right to hunt, target shoot, or even to defend themselves with a gun. i think -- this murder of 20 pure, innocent children is a tipping point. i'm proposing this commission so we
i want to ask you about the nra because the nra remained silent on this issue. we haven't heard word one. facebook page is down. why do you think that is? why isn't the nra coming out and standing up for itself when so many out there are blaming the nra for what happened in newtown, connecticut? >> yeah. well, i mean, obviously you would have to ask folks from the nra. let's just hope it is out of respect for this tragedy. but, you know, from the president on down, we all have to engage...
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the nra is a master when it comes to psychology. listen to nra executive vice president from earlier this year. >> if president obama gets one more term it will break the back of the second amendment of this country. this is the most dangerous election in our lifetime if you are a supporter of second amendment. >> really? mr. obama did not push for a single piece of gun control legislation in his first term. no matter. in the nra's world obama's second term spells doom or maybe what happened at sandy hook does. dick's sporting goods says it is banning sales of some semi-automatic guns nationwide. the late nra famous for saying he would give us his gun if you pry it from his hands. >> from my cold, dead hands. >> what is it about guns that cuts to the core of the america psyche? is it the second amendment which says our right to bear arms should not be infringed or is it that gun owners see their relationship to this democracy through the eyes of the gun issue? what does owning a gun represent to you? facebook.com/carolcnn. >>> kids
the nra is a master when it comes to psychology. listen to nra executive vice president from earlier this year. >> if president obama gets one more term it will break the back of the second amendment of this country. this is the most dangerous election in our lifetime if you are a supporter of second amendment. >> really? mr. obama did not push for a single piece of gun control legislation in his first term. no matter. in the nra's world obama's second term spells doom or maybe what...
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we need each other, whether you support gun control, or the nra who should bring good ideas to citizens. we can protect the constitution, but we also have to protect our people. >> in annapolis, gov. martin o'malley says he supports looking into the gun issue, especially when it comes to safety. >> i do not have a bill to present to you. it is still very much a work in progress. it is work that i would guess that every state in the union as undertaking. >> we call several gun stores that declined on-camera interviews, but did tell 11 news that guns are moving off the shelves at record rates. we were referred to a news release that read in part upon what we call it -- we find it callous and disrespectful that certain politicians and gun control advocates are so focused on their political agenda that they could not find it in their hearts to refrain from publicly exploiting this heartbreaking tragedy until after the victims had been returned to their families and loved ones." and the democratic senator from the murray townie announced what he is calling an anti--- montgomery county announ
we need each other, whether you support gun control, or the nra who should bring good ideas to citizens. we can protect the constitution, but we also have to protect our people. >> in annapolis, gov. martin o'malley says he supports looking into the gun issue, especially when it comes to safety. >> i do not have a bill to present to you. it is still very much a work in progress. it is work that i would guess that every state in the union as undertaking. >> we call several gun...
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the leadership of the nra, who function as enablelers of mass murderers. >> absolutely not true. >> they terrify the political people and even though polling shows that most nra members would support reasonable gun controls, they come in and lie and say they will take your guns away and stop any legislation to prevent that. >> nobody outside the military and police in this country needs one of these. nobody, end of story. >> i have to say something. >> the encouraging thing and what you should take inspiration because we are all frustrated and outraged. this conversation and what these guys are saying does not represent what the american public wants and the conversation that the american public wants to have. we are all in favor of things like criminal background checks. 74% of nra members are and most gun sales do not require a background check. that's something we all agree on. there are things that we can do -- >> it's not as they try to tell me an anti-american thing to say i respect the second amendment and i respect the right of every family to defend themselves. i don't respect t
the leadership of the nra, who function as enablelers of mass murderers. >> absolutely not true. >> they terrify the political people and even though polling shows that most nra members would support reasonable gun controls, they come in and lie and say they will take your guns away and stop any legislation to prevent that. >> nobody outside the military and police in this country needs one of these. nobody, end of story. >> i have to say something. >> the...
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in the last 24 hours two senators with nra ratings of a, joe manchin and mark warner said this event changed them and they're open to new solutions. let's take a listen to what senator manchin told christiane amanpour. >> who would have thought in america or anywhere in the world children would be slaughtered? it changed me. i don't know of anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know people that need 10, 20, 30-round clips. >> i believe every american has second amendment rights and the ability to hunt is part of our culture and i have had an nra rating of an a, but, you know, enough is enough. >> erin, that's the beginning of what may be a significant shift in evolution on thissish aut is. the nation had an assault weapons band that ex poo ird in 2004. that's one of the things senators are talking about looking at. the fact these senators are saying they're open to this kind of conversation is really significant. >> all right, john, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> as the residents of mountain mourn the loss of friends and family, one of the things that helps
in the last 24 hours two senators with nra ratings of a, joe manchin and mark warner said this event changed them and they're open to new solutions. let's take a listen to what senator manchin told christiane amanpour. >> who would have thought in america or anywhere in the world children would be slaughtered? it changed me. i don't know of anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know people that need 10, 20, 30-round clips. >> i believe every american has second...
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about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saultz on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the violence. >> no single law. no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. but that can't be an excuse for an action.
about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saultz on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the violence. >> no single law. no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every...
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and yet we have a lobby, the leadership of the nra who function as enablers of mass murderers, they are enablers of mass murder because they terrified the class of people and even though. >> absolute sli not. >> polling shows most nra members will oppose reasonable gun controls but they lie and say they will take away your guns and take your guns away. >> no one outside of a police officer or military needs one of these in their house. nobody. >> we need to say something. >> listen, the encouraging thing and what you should take inspiration because we are all frustrated and outraged. this conversation does not represent what the american public. wants. it does not represent the conversation that american public wants to have. we are in favor of background checks. 74% of nra members are and most gun sales do not require a background check. things that we can do. >> it's not as they try to tell me an anti-american thing to say i respect the second amendment and i respect the right for a family to defend themselves. i don't respect families to load their homes with these so a disturbed kid
and yet we have a lobby, the leadership of the nra who function as enablers of mass murderers, they are enablers of mass murder because they terrified the class of people and even though. >> absolute sli not. >> polling shows most nra members will oppose reasonable gun controls but they lie and say they will take away your guns and take your guns away. >> no one outside of a police officer or military needs one of these in their house. nobody. >> we need to say...
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there's no big signs, with the entrance of the capitol hill office of the nra. this is where they do their lobbying. today demonstrators brought the controversial and highly emotionally charged issue of gun control right here. >> we're here today baas the nra has blood on its hands. [ chanting ] >> the group creedo action orgazed this march. >> and deman they stand down and get out of the way to congress can pass sensible gun control legislation that will save lives. >> reporter: before the demonstrators arrived at the offices, i rang the bell here. no one answered. a neighbor said there was no one in the office today. >> the marchers chanted. >> in memory of charlotte bacon, age 6. >> reporter: they read the names of the 26 victims killed on friday in connecticut. they say the nra works to defeat any politician that doesn't support the right to own guns. >> i'm protesting the nra's lobbying effort to keep assault rifles in the hands of the american public, and also for their campaigning against any common-sense gun control measures. maggie burky is a d.c. publi
there's no big signs, with the entrance of the capitol hill office of the nra. this is where they do their lobbying. today demonstrators brought the controversial and highly emotionally charged issue of gun control right here. >> we're here today baas the nra has blood on its hands. [ chanting ] >> the group creedo action orgazed this march. >> and deman they stand down and get out of the way to congress can pass sensible gun control legislation that will save lives. >>...
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this is tied into ideology, not just hunting licenses. >> the nra gets, i think -- the nra spends the most money on the one side of the issue, so they get credit/blame, depending where you come down on all this. but somehow the debate -- chuck's point about the frustration with the lack of any middle ground possible -- >> when charlton heston said you're going to have to take this gun out of my cold, dead hand. that's not a compromising position. >> and that's the problem, chris. it's become this slippery slope argument, which is any -- >> i hate that phrase. >> i hate the slippery slope. >> okay. let's say assault weapons or these high caliber -- these high pack rounds, if they do that, what will they do next? >> find a way. let's be honest about it. can we be honest about it? >> you can't have a discussion -- >> you know what the problem is? there is a sliver of american people who are anti-gun. they would like to go around the country and collect every gun. let's be honest, they are there, they live in big cities, in apartments, they think the police will be there to protect them.
this is tied into ideology, not just hunting licenses. >> the nra gets, i think -- the nra spends the most money on the one side of the issue, so they get credit/blame, depending where you come down on all this. but somehow the debate -- chuck's point about the frustration with the lack of any middle ground possible -- >> when charlton heston said you're going to have to take this gun out of my cold, dead hand. that's not a compromising position. >> and that's the problem,...
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in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs the sandy hook massacre has eroded some of the nra's influence on capitol hill. >> as your senator, i'll protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator joe manchin, a lifelong nra member said he's rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know of anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and former republican congressman joe scarborough, now an msnbc host, also reversed himself on gun control. >> politicians can no longer be allowed to defend the status quo. they must instead be forced to defend our children. >> reporter: but at least one texas republican continues to defend the right of americans to own assault weapons. >> it ensures against the tyranny of the government. >> reporter: amid the talk of gun control, gun sales have picked up. in portland, just a week after a gunman killed two in an area mall. >> yesterday was the biggest day we've ever done in 20 years. today
in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs the sandy hook massacre has eroded some of the nra's influence on capitol hill. >> as your senator, i'll protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator joe manchin, a lifelong nra member said he's rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know of anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as...
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in its first statement since the killings the nra has this to say. quote, out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again, end quote. cnn's george howell is following the politics and power of the nra. david mattingly shows us how talk of gun control is triggering a spike in gun sales. george, let's begin with you and the nra. what does it mean by meaningful contributions? >> carol, fair to say, it's an open ended statement. and since that statement, since the shooting, the nra has been silent. we know their facebook page, they took that down briefly. their twitter account also went cold. now both are back up. touting this big announcement friday. what that big announcement will be we have yet to see. again, we know their website is also up and run ing. you played just a moment ago a bit of this -- this program called cannon company. that's a
in its first statement since the killings the nra has this to say. quote, out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again, end quote. cnn's george howell is following the politics and power of the nra. david mattingly shows us how talk of gun control is triggering a spike in gun sales....
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an nra member. he told joe scarborough why he thinks we ought to talk about this. >> never before have we seen our babies slaughtered. it's never happened in america that i can recall, ever seeing this type of carnage. anybody, anybody that lives in america, anybody that's a proud gun owner, anybody that's a proud member of the nra, they're also proud parents, proud grandparents, they understand. this has changed where we go from here. i'm going to speak to all my colleagues. i'm going to reach out to all of my friends at the nra. i'll go over and sit down with them and say how can we take the dialogue to a different level? how can we sit down and make sure we're moving and not be afraid that someone is going to attack our freedoms and our rights. >> let me go back to mr. larson. this is a real trouble here because it always goes back to freedom and the fact we love this freedom we feel. adlai stevenson once said freedom in this doesn't is something you can actually feel. it just feels great, the se
an nra member. he told joe scarborough why he thinks we ought to talk about this. >> never before have we seen our babies slaughtered. it's never happened in america that i can recall, ever seeing this type of carnage. anybody, anybody that lives in america, anybody that's a proud gun owner, anybody that's a proud member of the nra, they're also proud parents, proud grandparents, they understand. this has changed where we go from here. i'm going to speak to all my colleagues. i'm going to...
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lawmakers from both sides of the party, even staunch members, staunchly backed by the nra are united in their grief and say they want change to happen, but will it? >> erin, sometimes it takes tragedy to make us confront reality. you are starting to see politicians on both sides of the aisle say maybe now is not the time to rely on ideology or partisan politics put to start taking a long look at the laws that exist around guns. not infringing on the second amendment, but taking a look at what reasonable restrictions can be put in place. in the last 24 hours, two leading southern democratic leaders, joel manchin and mark warner, said this event has changed them and they're open to new solutions. let's take a look at what m manchin told christine amanpour. >> who would think that children in america or anyone would be slaughtered? it changed me. i don't know of anyone who goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know people who need 10, 20, 30-round clips. >> i believe every american has a second amendment right and the ability to hunt is part of our culture. i had an nra rating of
lawmakers from both sides of the party, even staunch members, staunchly backed by the nra are united in their grief and say they want change to happen, but will it? >> erin, sometimes it takes tragedy to make us confront reality. you are starting to see politicians on both sides of the aisle say maybe now is not the time to rely on ideology or partisan politics put to start taking a long look at the laws that exist around guns. not infringing on the second amendment, but taking a look at...
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. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside offices in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs that the sandy hook massacre has impacted capitol hill. >> as your senator i will protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator, joe manchin, a life-long nra member said he is rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and former republican congressman, joe scarborough, now an msnbc host also reversed himself on gun control. >> politicians can no longer be allowed to defend the status quo. they must instead be forced to defend our children. >> reporter: but at least one texas republican continues to defend the right of americans to own assault weapons. >> it ensures against the tyranny of the government. >> reporter: amid the talk of gun control, gun sales have picked up. in portland, just a week after a gunman killed two in an area mall. >> yesterday was the biggest
. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside offices in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs that the sandy hook massacre has impacted capitol hill. >> as your senator i will protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator, joe manchin, a life-long nra member said he is rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know...
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the nra, a lot of conservatives, in congress, who say that that's not the answer. we need to do a better job of enforcing the laws that are already on the books. president obama certainly making a pretty strong statement in his remarks yesterday and again in hi radio address today. >> switching gears now. a few moments ago we reported hillary clinton faint ad pew days ago. she is home now. expected to be okay. how will her illness affect the timing of the announcement of the next secretary of state? >> reporter: i don't know that it will have an impact on that announcement. what i can tell you, craig, is that just to put night context, secretary of state clinton recently to cancel an overseas trip because she got a stomach bug. because of that bug, according to officials at the state department, she became dehydrated several day ace go and did faint and did suffer a concussion. but she is at home and is resting and she is being monitored by doctors and she is expected to return to work sometime soon. >> nbc's kristen welker from the white house for us on this satur
the nra, a lot of conservatives, in congress, who say that that's not the answer. we need to do a better job of enforcing the laws that are already on the books. president obama certainly making a pretty strong statement in his remarks yesterday and again in hi radio address today. >> switching gears now. a few moments ago we reported hillary clinton faint ad pew days ago. she is home now. expected to be okay. how will her illness affect the timing of the announcement of the next...
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. >> the nra breaking its silence. the powerful gun lobby will hold a major news conference to announce the actions it plans to take in the wake of the elementary school tragedy. the national rifle association breaking that silence for the first time yesterday saying it was prepared to make meaningful contributions to make sure this never happens again. the gun rights organization and gun rights advocates in congress both under public pressure to join the call for action. >> just wonder -- this long after a mass killing like that, little 6 and 7-year-olds, there is not a single republican in america, in elected office, not going to step up and say something? >> i think that says something in itself. >> i think it is time to talk, guys. one way or the other, where do you stand on this issue? >> joining me this morning is connecticut congressman joe courtney. good to have you here. the president is speaking in 45 minutes from now to announce this new interagency task force on gun control. he's not expected to announce an
. >> the nra breaking its silence. the powerful gun lobby will hold a major news conference to announce the actions it plans to take in the wake of the elementary school tragedy. the national rifle association breaking that silence for the first time yesterday saying it was prepared to make meaningful contributions to make sure this never happens again. the gun rights organization and gun rights advocates in congress both under public pressure to join the call for action. >> just...
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they had a lot of backlash against the nra. this time they're much more careful about how they're handling their public relations campaign. these tough guys in the nra who are always talking about their principles, where are they now defending them when they're unpopular. if they really believe in these principles, it's the most important time to defend them publicly is when they're under attack and despite their unpopularity you still believe in them. >> cenk: that's a great point, michael. there is one guy fighting aggressively, mayor bloomberg in new york. >> it's time for the president i think, to stand up and lead and tell this country what we should do. not go to congress and say what do you guys want to do? this should be his number one agenda. he's the president of the united states. and if he does nothing during his second term, something like 48,000 americans will be killed with illegal guns. that is roughly the number of americans killed in the whole vietnam war. >> cenk: well, mayor bloomberg seems to be indisputabl
they had a lot of backlash against the nra. this time they're much more careful about how they're handling their public relations campaign. these tough guys in the nra who are always talking about their principles, where are they now defending them when they're unpopular. if they really believe in these principles, it's the most important time to defend them publicly is when they're under attack and despite their unpopularity you still believe in them. >> cenk: that's a great point,...
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everyone, including nra members, there was a recent poll by frank luntz which said 74% of nra members believe everyone should have a background check. >> why is that not the case, governor? why does that not exist? >> because the nra has created an illusion that they are going to beat you if they are against you, and i sit here as an ex-governor of the second largest nra membership state in the union, pennsylvania. three times i ran for statewide office. i won by 10 points, 12 points and 21 points, and the nra opposed me each and every time. they are a paper tiger, and it's time for men and women in congress to have the guts to stand up for our kids and for our people. >> so you think michael bloomberg, mayor bloomberg was right this morning, when he said that the organization's power has been overstated dramatically. >> well, i wouldn't be here. this is the second largest nra state in the union, pennsylvania, and i won statewide three times by virtual landslides. the nra was dead set against me because of the work i had done as mayor on gun control, and i won three times overwhelming
everyone, including nra members, there was a recent poll by frank luntz which said 74% of nra members believe everyone should have a background check. >> why is that not the case, governor? why does that not exist? >> because the nra has created an illusion that they are going to beat you if they are against you, and i sit here as an ex-governor of the second largest nra membership state in the union, pennsylvania. three times i ran for statewide office. i won by 10 points, 12...
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until the facts are thoroughly known the nra will not have any comment. fighting tears, perhaps president obama did start the conversation this afternoon. >> as a country we have been through this too many times. whether its an elementary school in newtown, or a shopping mall in oregon. or a temple in wisconsin. or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. >> reporter: harry smith is with us now, when i ran into you a little while ago, the first thing we said to each other, was man, we've seen this before. we tried out that list and we go through jonesboro, and i noticed even tonight, in these trauma centers we can stand there and watch gunshot victims come in. >> you have spent all that time in chicago, you know what it was like this past summer. there was a weekend when 30 people were shot. ten people killed. not just one weekend,
until the facts are thoroughly known the nra will not have any comment. fighting tears, perhaps president obama did start the conversation this afternoon. >> as a country we have been through this too many times. whether its an elementary school in newtown, or a shopping mall in oregon. or a temple in wisconsin. or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together...
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. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside of washington, the nra declined to comment on the debate. but there were signs that they have. joe manchin, a life long nra member said he's rethinking his position. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and joe scarborough, now an nbc host also reversed himself on gun control. >> politicians can no longer be allowed to defend the statistic customer quo, they must instead be forced to defend our children. >> reporter: at least one texas republican defends the rights of owners. amid the talk of gun control, gun sales have picked up. in portland, just a week after a gunman killed two in an area mall. >> yesterday was the biggest day we've ever done in 20 years. today will probably eclipse that. >> reporter: gun control off of washington in a decade, suddenly front and center. tom costello, nbc "nightly news," washington. >>> as the bereaved residents try to get through the tragedy, a group of ten golden ret
. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside of washington, the nra declined to comment on the debate. but there were signs that they have. joe manchin, a life long nra member said he's rethinking his position. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and joe scarborough, now an nbc host also reversed himself on gun control. >>...
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one week since the nra response. in that time, americans seem more confused than ever about how to react to gun violence. on one hand people are buying up guns like mad. in los angeles, we have seen some of the biggest gun buyback in history. people waited two hours in line to get rid of their guns. why do you think that is? why the dichotomy in the country? >> i wasn't in los angeles for the buyback, but if you offer me a $100 for a $50 i'll sell it to y you. >> some wanted to get rid of the guns because they wanted them out of their house. >> people have every right to either own or not own a gun. that's what a free country is about. >> let's move on to the polls that i was talking about earlier. there are some who are as conservative as you can get who say the nra not listening to your own members. frank says a republican pollster had to say on cbs. >> i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think that they understand. most americans would protect the 2nd amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not e
one week since the nra response. in that time, americans seem more confused than ever about how to react to gun violence. on one hand people are buying up guns like mad. in los angeles, we have seen some of the biggest gun buyback in history. people waited two hours in line to get rid of their guns. why do you think that is? why the dichotomy in the country? >> i wasn't in los angeles for the buyback, but if you offer me a $100 for a $50 i'll sell it to y you. >> some wanted to get...
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what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation. the conversation is around specific measures like criminal background checks on all gun sales. 74% of nra members support criminal background checks on all gun sales and our message today is really to them, to the nra members, you know, like president obama said, nra members are mothers and fathers, too, and we all grieve over this terrible tragedy and we all grieve over the 32 to 34 murders that happen every single day in our country, and there are things we can do about it and that's what we hope the nra is going to focus on as well, but it'
what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation....
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. >> how do you actually deal with that powerful lobby, the nra, the nra now saying that they are not yet in the debate. they'll comment with had they get all the information from this latest massacre. but we've already had some indications, congressman manchin who says, look, perhaps i will go ahead and suggest to my nra friends that they need to engage and need to take a different approach. is this the moment that that is even possible? >> i hope so because what i hope that we will do is now we'll start looking at facts rather than, you know, emotions. the time for emotions remains with regard to this horrific tragedy, but let's translate into action. and the action depends on facts. why do we have 15 times as much gun homicide as the rest of the world? what can we do about it? what can we learn from other countries that have dealt with some of these issues? why do countries like japan have these extraordinarily low rates of gun home skpooicide and gun ? if we can come up with something sensible -- and frankly, if has to be more far reaching. even the legislation proposed by dianne
. >> how do you actually deal with that powerful lobby, the nra, the nra now saying that they are not yet in the debate. they'll comment with had they get all the information from this latest massacre. but we've already had some indications, congressman manchin who says, look, perhaps i will go ahead and suggest to my nra friends that they need to engage and need to take a different approach. is this the moment that that is even possible? >> i hope so because what i hope that we...
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an obvious reference there to the nra. there were no supported senators of the nra that would go on "meet the press" this weekend. the nra has been oddly mum in this, telling nbc news they want to wait to remark on this until more facts come to light. but as you pointed out in a recent editorial yourself, as we look back on the assault weapons ban between 1994 and 2004, we saw such a decrease in the amount of gun crimes in this country, yet we let that lapse. we got away from it. how easy is it going to be to utilize what is -- the knowledge that's coming out of this tragedy in newtown to revisit that and get something done? >> i would never say doing anything in washington is easy at all. look, we are going to have to do something. i'm not a huge fan actually of the assault weapons ban. this gets to something broader i think that needs to be talked about. we need to do something. we need action. you keep hearing that. we also need to do the right thing. we need things that will actually help the assault weapons ban, i don
an obvious reference there to the nra. there were no supported senators of the nra that would go on "meet the press" this weekend. the nra has been oddly mum in this, telling nbc news they want to wait to remark on this until more facts come to light. but as you pointed out in a recent editorial yourself, as we look back on the assault weapons ban between 1994 and 2004, we saw such a decrease in the amount of gun crimes in this country, yet we let that lapse. we got away from it. how...
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nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the congress but state legislators are mortified for these guys and for good reason. they send out a lot of mail and people follow them. i think the vice president was instrumental in passing the assault weapon ban before. he knows this. he is a good man to head up this task force but he will be in for a heck of a fight them play pretty tough. it is not an easy thing to get done here. >> what should the nra say? he is coming out and talking tomorrow. is it safe to assume he will say look, we do support some kind of change. som
nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the...
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. >> i had an nra rating of "a." you know, enough is enough. i'm the father of three daughters, this weekend, they all said, dad, you know, how can this go on? >> the republicans are going to have to figure out. i mean, do they wapnt to be the party and this is what it's going to boil down to. this is the world they live in. do they want to be seen two years from now, four years from now, as the party of glocks. >> today, in "daily news." 9 title of "blood on your hands." when you hear joe manchin and joe scarborough talking about the party of glocks. are you worried, we need to bring up violent video games and hollywood as well. is the reinterpretation, the modern day and that people have access to assault weapons? >> you know what is also disturbing, thomas, people s, d republicans -- here we have a town that was controlled in by democrats, the white house for two years. and nothing took place. for the partisans in our country to already start injecting politics in here, that saddens me further. now, we have to remember connecticut has the fi
. >> i had an nra rating of "a." you know, enough is enough. i'm the father of three daughters, this weekend, they all said, dad, you know, how can this go on? >> the republicans are going to have to figure out. i mean, do they wapnt to be the party and this is what it's going to boil down to. this is the world they live in. do they want to be seen two years from now, four years from now, as the party of glocks. >> today, in "daily news." 9 title of...
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until the facts are thoroughly known the nra will not have any comment. fighting tears, perhaps president obama did start the conversation this afternoon. >> as a country we have been through this too many times. whether its an elementary school in newtown, or a shopping mall in oregon. or a temple in wisconsin. or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. >> reporter: harry smith is with us now, when i ran into you a little while ago, the first thing we said to each other, was man, we've seen this before. we trot out that list and we go through jonesboro, and i noticed even tonight, in these trauma centers we can stand there and watch gunshot victims come in. >> you have spent all that time in chicago, you know what it was like this past summer. there was a weekend when 30 people were shot. ten people killed. not just one weekend,
until the facts are thoroughly known the nra will not have any comment. fighting tears, perhaps president obama did start the conversation this afternoon. >> as a country we have been through this too many times. whether its an elementary school in newtown, or a shopping mall in oregon. or a temple in wisconsin. or a movie theater in aurora or a street corner in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. and we're going to have to come together...
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one is the nra that believe if you can see lightning and hear thunder, you should own a gun and then the extreme left liberals that think we're just going to wave the magic wand and erase 300 million firearms that we have knowledge of today. you need to sit down in the middle. >> not going to happen. >> you're right. that's unfortunately the truth here. that's why in a sense we're spinning our wheels. there is a remedy to the problem. part of it revolves around our ability to properly vet people and continuous education with people and law enforcement, we are taught and it's impressed upon us the need to safeguard your weapons. the rest of america is on a whole another page. we're on one page, they're on another. we go through one vetting process, they go through basically none. this is the disconnect. >> lou? we're going to have to leave it there. i appreciate the conversation. and i know how you're feeling because i've met your kids. and i've met your wife and i'm sure you ugh hadded them a lot yesterday as well you should and lou palumbo, thank you very much. >> thank you, don. >>
one is the nra that believe if you can see lightning and hear thunder, you should own a gun and then the extreme left liberals that think we're just going to wave the magic wand and erase 300 million firearms that we have knowledge of today. you need to sit down in the middle. >> not going to happen. >> you're right. that's unfortunately the truth here. that's why in a sense we're spinning our wheels. there is a remedy to the problem. part of it revolves around our ability to...
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we are all in favor of things like criminal background checks. 74% of nra members are and most gun sales do not require a background check. things that we can do. >> it's not as they try to tell me an anti-american thing to say i respect the second amendment and i respect the right second amendment. i don't respect the right for families to load their homes with these so a disturbed kid can take them and something into a school. >> the second amendment is nos at polarized as this gentleman is saying. >> this will continue next week. come next week when you have time to think about this you have to change your thinking. the gun lobby has to change its thinking. >> why do all of these -- >> we'll leave it there. coming next, survivors from other mass shootings share their thoughts on today's appalling massacre. >>> the most disturbing issues from the shooting, police officers escorting schoolchildren from the school. another picture from the mass shooting in 1999. we have a victim of the shooting, joins me now. and we have another jcc survivor, and a survivor of the tragedy in aurora, and
we are all in favor of things like criminal background checks. 74% of nra members are and most gun sales do not require a background check. things that we can do. >> it's not as they try to tell me an anti-american thing to say i respect the second amendment and i respect the right second amendment. i don't respect the right for families to load their homes with these so a disturbed kid can take them and something into a school. >> the second amendment is nos at polarized as this...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago they didn't have the power they once did in a presidential election. >> i'll give you a good example. i'm not the kind of person to sit back and say, you know, the world is getting worse for my kids, and i'm gone, i don't care about their lives. i do care about their lives. i'm going to do everything while i'm alive to make the world a better place for my kids but also for society. and take a look. one of the things i decided to do in the last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california, one of the democrats that you supported? >> we won four out of seven -- four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those four and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful. you go back to what happened back when the democrats lost after
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago they didn't have the power they once did in a presidential election. >> i'll give you a good example. i'm not the kind of person to sit back and say, you know, the world is getting worse for my kids, and i'm gone, i don't care about their lives. i do care about their lives. i'm going to do everything while i'm alive to make the world a better place for my kids but also for society. and take a look. one of the things i...
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biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with a press conference on friday. and last night on nra news online, host jenny simone gave a hint of their response. criticizing renewed support for a ban on assault weapons. >> more gun laws are not the answer. and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the answer, more guns. everywhere. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-gunners on the hill to listen to some of these survivors. at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left as sitting ducks. adam lanza knew he was going to be able to do what he wanted to do. >> for some, too many guns are never, ever enough. let's get right to our panel now. with me in new york is richard wolffe who's the v.p. and executive editor on msnbc.com and ari melber. there was almost the acknowledgment that this wild use of assau
biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with a press conference on friday. and last night on nra news online, host jenny simone gave a hint of their response. criticizing renewed support for a ban on assault weapons. >> more gun laws are not the answer. and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the...
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the usually social media-savvy nra hasn't tweeted or posted anything on its facebook page since friday. the facebook page was taken down a day after it boasted of reaching 1.7 million likes. >> deafening silence perhaps. >>> coming up, what to tell your children as they go back to school today. >>> and the morning's other news today. signs of progress as we get closer and closer to what seems like big news last week, the fiscal cliff. >>> and kate middleton steps out for the first time since being hospitalized. stay with us. hospitalized. stay wit ♪ ♪ >>> in brookfield, wisconsin, the sikh temple, still reeling from its own mass shooting held a prayer vigil for victims in newtown last night. six people were killed there when a gunman burst into that temple and opened fire last august. >>> unfortunately more gun violence news to bring you this morning. the topeka, kansas, police force is in mourning this morning after two of its officers were gunned down. >> both men were shot in the head when they responded to a report of a suspicious vehicle outside a grocery store. and now there'
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>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the biggest single hole right now if you're a felon and you walk into a gun store and you try to buy a gun and they go, oh, you're a felon and we're going to turn you do, they let you walk out and they don't prosecute you. it's like bonnie and clyde. it like clyde goes in and tries to buy a gun. he goes back to bonnie and said i got bad news, they didn't sell me a gun. the good news is they let me go, they didn't do anything to me. they go about and commit their crime. >> is senator feinstein's bill to revive the assault weapon ban going to pass? >>
>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the...